Do you have a supervisor who is giving you a hard time? Some bosses would do nothing to help you into another job, or worse, are just plain vindictive and destroy any chance of advancement by actively working against you. Others are so involved with their own priorities they know little about you and the work you do. Would you trust your boss to give you a decent reference?
Put yourself in their shoes. They have deadlines to meet. Yes, I know, we’ve all been there, but if they stuff up they might lose their bonus. They might not be able to get that new Beemer they’ve had their eye on recently.
So you ask for a reference. What goes through their mind? Do they think, “How can I help out with their next career step,” or is it something more selfish, “This is not a good time; if I lose them now who’ll fill their place?” But irrespective of what they are thinking they’ll say, “I’d be glad to give you a reference,” but plan to provide a more mundane comment when the employer contacts them: “Yes, their work has been mostly adequate...”
Then when that all important phone call comes through the chances are that all you’ll get in support might be something along the lines: “Yes, attendance has been satisfactory, except when...” “Yes, interaction with other staff is good, though sometimes tea breaks seem to be a bit long on occasions.” Any of these comments will guarantee your name is crossed off the list.
Not all bosses are like this, and quite a few will go out of their way to help. Genuinely. But if you are stuck, don’t worry. You don’t need them.
If you are worried, ask your wife, husband, partner, work colleagues, or old school friends to help you out. It might also be a test of the strength of your friendship. Anyway, you’d be able to help them out should they need a similar favour.
Your prospective employer knows about you because you have applied for the job and you provided certain information. The advantage you have is that they don’t know your friends and relatives. You just have to make sure the information your referees provide supports and agrees with what was stated in your application and what you say at the interview. Ideally, you will have been talking to your intended referees beforehand so that everyone’s statements will match.
Let’s say it’s your cousin that you ask to be one of your referees. Here’s what to do. You and your cousin need get together to discuss your experience so that everything each of you say will match. You need to decide at what point in time the two of you could have been in a working relationship. Think about the things you have done in your last job. Think of a project you might have done. If there was more than one project, so much the better. It may well be that you managed your work or projects entirely by yourself, but for this exercise it will be your cousin who was your supervisor and you reported directly to them. No one else knows that the two of you know each other privately.
Get together and work out how this fictitious relationship might have been. Perhaps they were hired for a special one off project by the company and you were assigned to be their assistant. Brief them in as much detail as possible to enable them to provide information on the project and what your part was. Provide them with notes on your experiences and abilities that they have to speak of. Have a trial so that your cousin can gain confidence. Of course, it would be as well that the cousin was familiar with the type of work you were involved with. This plan will fall on its face if your cousin is inexperienced in any essential aspect of the advice they are supposed to be passing on. So, take that into consideration when you are planning what is to be said.
Your cousin should keep the story straight about your skills and the outcomes of the work. It’s only a small lie. Your cousin shouldn’t build you up into something greater than your abilities. Their task is to promote you as a skilled worker that the prospective employer would be pleased to have. They should talk about you in a positive light, and importantly, with enthusiasm. You have already told of your skills during the interview. So, they are not expected to add to that, but what they say should support your claims. All you want your cousin to do is to tell your story like it really is and not adversely biased by a supervisor or boss who would put you down or make things hard for you. However, you cousin has to do it with passion. They have to say that you were a delight to work with... sorely missed your talents when I left the project... would love to work with them again... etc.
So when the employer telephones Acme Bookbinding for the reference (or wherever it is that your cousin works), your cousin will answer the phone like they normally do, because you will have provided your cousin’s real name and real place of employment to your prospective employer. All your cousin has to do is boast of your credentials; which will be true because you don’t want this job under false pretences. All you want is a helping hand. And the excuse for them being at Acme Bookbinding is that they left la-de-dah (where you currently work) a while ago. They are unlikely to check any of these details, unless you are applying for a job in some highly sensitive area. It’s you they are checking up on; not your referees.
If you use a close relative for this, make sure you all have different telephone numbers and/or email addresses. It could be embarrassing if your reference (husband or wife) has the same or similar contact information as yourself. Of course with mobile phones that’s not a problem. Anyway, you’d be giving work numbers and work addresses, and why would they want to find out where your referees live. That would be delving into someone’s private life more than they should.
The trouble with using someone so close to your personal life is that they will never be able to meet up with any of your bosses. Anyway, that might be a good thing.
14 January 2011
Are you stuck for a reference?
Posted by RoZ at 12:46 PM 0 comments
Labels: boss, interviews, job applications, referee reports, reference, supervisor
15 December 2010
The good reference
Referee reports are often important in getting that job you want. If you have the skills and experience to apply for your dream job, and you write a great application that wins you an interview, and if the interview goes really well, and everything seem set for getting the position, you are going to be seriously annoyed if you later find out your referees let you down by saying something about you with less enthusiasm than you’d like. It takes the edge off your application.
Where do you get a good reference? You’ll get them from the people who like and admire you, of course. They will be trusted work colleagues, friends, or relatives. They might even be your bosses or supervisor, but this isn’t always the case. Line managers are more likely to be interested in their balance sheets or productivity than your career. Mind you, if you come across a manager that has both interests at heart you may be better off staying where you are!
I’ve asked lots of bosses to be my referee. Gauge their reaction when you ask. If they seem in any way reticent don’t use them. If they don’t want you to tell you or discuss with you what they will say or write then don’t use them. I had one referee who passed on their reference to me before it was forwarded for me to review. It was a great reference, nicely worded and in some respects spoke about me in better terms than I would have considered of myself. I made some suggested edits and they were incorporated too.
A lot of referees’ reports are taken over the phone. In anticipation of this, get together with your colleagues who are going to be your referees and work out what is to be said when that telephone call is made. On some occasions a written report has to be provided and email will commonly be used. It would be to everyone’s advantage to consult each other, and share the load on this task. It’s possible for your old boss to remain your referee even though they may have moved. You can also continue to use friends who work in a different organisation as your referee too.
If an old work mate has moved on and works in some other company, and is obviously not your supervisor, don’t hesitate to consider asking them if you suspect your boss may not be as helpful to you in getting another job. Of course, the people you approach must take the responsibility seriously. And of course, they must be willing to give you an excellent report. You must convince them to speak about you in glowing terms, because that’s what may well be happening with your competition for the job.
If it is a requirement that one of your referees be your supervisor and you refuse to do this you may have to sit through an awkward period of questioning at the interview, but don’t use them if they will undermine your chance of winning the job. Remember, everyone has experienced troubles at work and the interview panel may well understand your reasons for your choice of referees.
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Labels: employers, interviews, referee reports, written referee reports
06 December 2010
Cold comfort
Sarino Russo staff pushed the notion of what they termed cold calling.
I recall stories from my parents and older relatives. These are people who lived through the depression of the 1930s. You’ve probably watched old movies of long queues of people lining up for food handouts, never mind lining up for a job, and of people walking from town to town in search of work. I feel miserable just thinking about this. Snap out of it!
My mother and aunt used to talk about their experiences of marching the streets of Glasgow, knocking on factory and workshop doors and asking if they had any work; any kind of work. My mother did this in Australia when we first arrived here, and on a few occasions she was successful in getting factory work in stinking, hot, noisy environments that almost caused her to collapse from exhaustion. She carried the memories of one of those employers for year after year on her hands. The chemicals used in the fruit processing factory resulted in dermatitis of her fingers which lasted for years. She suffered sore hands and skin for years, but she never sued nor claimed compensation.
This is nothing to look forward to. If that’s cold calling, who wants it?
I wanted a job that was within my capabilities. A job I felt comfortable doing, something that I would like. My skills were mildly specialised and jobs were few and far between. My partner had less practical skills than me but was far more qualified. Both of us have tried cold calling employers. We wrote to selected employers.
I sent out a series of emails, very briefly outlining our skills, background, and qualifications. Not much more than a hundred words. I wrote just enough to whet their appetites. If I got any bites I would have provided more information and sent my CV too.
I never had any takers. Not one job. Not one interview. I had a few responses saying they were passing my email onto colleagues. I had a few people ask for my CV. No jobs ever came of it. On the other hand my partner has won several jobs. Some people had retained her email for periods approaching 12 months before contacting her and asking if she’d like to come in for an interview. These jobs have never been brilliant in her view, and have all been casual positions or contract jobs.
You often tend to be treated distantly (or shabbily) in such jobs. The permanent staff know you will likely be moving on and consequently don’t want to invest any effort in getting to know you or engaging with you in any meaningful way. Of course, if you just want a job then these niceties don’t matter a bit, and if you do a half decent job you will probably be able to get your supervisor to be referee for you.
So I guess the bottom line to cold calling from my experience is don’t waste your time. Though it can work for some.
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Labels: employers, job applications, sarina russo, unemployed